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Category Archives: C&NW #1385 Status Updates

Welcome to the Chicago & North Western #1385 steam status blog! Follow along as we bring the 1907 American Locomotive Company 4-6-0 steam engine back to operating condition.

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Change as a Constant

Mid-Continent Railway Museum Posted on September 15, 2024 by RebeccaSeptember 16, 2024

Life is relentless change and that certainly includes locomotive restoration projects. This update explores some of the modifications made to the boiler and firebox configuration of C&NW #1385 in the past year. As a teaser, what differences do you see between these two photos?


Now what do you see different in the two below?


In the 3rd quarter of 2023, the 1385 Task Group resumed responsibility for project management which included reviewing tasks to be completed and setting a goal of returning the engine to MCRM for testing and operation in 2025. As part of the review contractors and resources were added to expedite the process.


In order for the engine to be accepted into service by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) we must complete what is known as the FRA Form 4. The Form 4 is a compilation of calculations and reference documentation to mathematically prove our boiler is safe to operate and determine what the safe operating pressure limit is. That pressure is known as the Maximum Allowable Working Pressure, or MAWP.


The Task Group began reviewing existing calculations and some suspected design deficiencies were found. To get a second and more experienced opinion MCRM partnered with FMW Solutions who confirmed the Task Group’s suspicions. It was determined that six staybolts in the firebox were too small, most of the staybolts in the firebox extended too far into the fire space and the transverse arch tubes between the sides of the firebox and the crownsheet of the firebox were unworkable.


We immediately set plans in motion to create a solution. One part of the work was the shop drawings created by the Task Group. With drawings in hand, the combined forces of SPEC Machine, Hooper Corporation, FMW Solutions, Harvey Diversified Trades, Sharpe Products, and MCRM employee TJ Doyle completed the changes by early June 2024.


The too-small staybolts were a relatively easy repair. The process was to cut out the old bolt and weld in the next larger standard size.


The staybolt ends extending too far into the firebox was also a relatively simple process though the work itself was repetitive and labor intensive. It consisted of cutting and grinding off the ends of the bolts until they protruded no more than 3/8 of an inch from the firebox surface. This measurement is a requirement of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) code of construction for locomotive boilers.


The transverse arch tubes were quite a bit more complex, and it was finally decided to revert to the original C&NW placement and design of two longitudinal arch tubes and patch the openings left from the transverse tubes. First, the tubes were removed from the firebox and then the washout plug collars were removed from the outside.


At the same time, two flexible staybolt sleeves were removed from the throatsheet so washout plug collars for the new arch tubes could be welded in their place.


Twenty-four patches were then welded in place of the removed tubes and sleeves. In the sides of the firebox, the patches also had to include a staybolt so a donut patch was welded in place on the inside and outside.


The staybolt was then welded in place in the donut hole.


On the crownsheet of the firebox the tubes had been placed between staybolts so a flush patch was all that was needed.


The welds were then ultrasonically inspected by TEAM Industrial Services and each weld had zero defects. Ultrasonic inspection of welds is a relatively recent process and is much quicker and safer than X-ray inspection, but it is equally acceptable. The holes for the arch tube washout collars on the backhead were then cut and prepped to have the collars welded in place.


The new arch tubes were then trimmed for proper fit and installed in the firebox.


While the necessary contractors and skilled labor was on site the boiler received two extras. The first was a pair of washout collars and plugs high on the boiler shell and at the front to aid in washing out scale and debris from the front of the boiler back toward the firebox. The second was drilling telltale holes in the firebox ends of the staybolts as needed. When the boiler was built the drilling was not a requirement, but it now is required in the current edition of the code of construction. We were not required to make this change but decided to proceed as a preemptive move in case the FRA required the drilling in the future. A tally of the stays that were drilled and trimmed was chalked on the mudring of the boiler after TJ Doyle had competed the arduous task.

All boiler and firebox modifications outlined in this update were completed by June 2024 and the project has since moved on to hydrostatic testing of the boiler, with one hydrostatic test already completed and a follow-up hydrostatic test planned for the near future.

All photos courtesy of Pete D.

Ties to the Future: A 1385 Project

Mid-Continent Railway Museum Posted on August 28, 2024 by RebeccaOctober 11, 2024
The current state of our interchange rail ties. Notice the absent and deteriorating ties.

We’re thrilled to announce a challenge grant of $5,000 from an anonymous donor for new railroad ties. Now we need your help to match the challenge so we can claim the $5,000 grant and get the new ties installed in the coming months.

This isn’t just any track maintenance project. As the Chicago & North Western #1385 steam locomotive restoration project nears completion, one of the major tasks still ahead is transporting the restored locomotive back home to Mid-Continent. Shipping the 1385 home by railroad flat car is the preferred option, but there’s a snag:  Mid-Continent’s interchange track is rarely used and many of the ties on that portion of the line are rotted and can’t support the weight of 1385. About 275 new ties are needed to make the interchange safe for use.

If you are interested in helping us renew our rail connection to the outside world, bringing 1385 home, and taking a step towards exciting new possibilities, please click the link: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=DB9BNRE2VMTPL

Donations can also be made by phone or mail. For assistance, contact our office staff at 608-522-4261.


Our webpage will be frequently updated with current donation totals so check back to follow our progress! 🚂🌟

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Raised amount is accurate as of 3:35 PM on 9/4/2024.

C&NW #1385 on an excursion in Rochelle, IL. on September 7th, 1983. Jeff Kneipper photo.

Update Oct. 10, 2024

Thanks to the success of this fundraiser, 275 new railroad ties have been delivered! Installation of the ties is expected to occur in November 2024.

Posted in C&NW #1385 Status Updates, News

Greetings from the Mid-Continent Steam Team

Mid-Continent Railway Museum Posted on August 5, 2024 by RebeccaAugust 7, 2024

On July 20th Mike W., Pete D., Ed R., Mary S., Andy S. gathered at 8:00 AM to perform the first hydro test on the Chicago and North Western #1385 locomotive after all the studs and appliances have been added to the boiler. This is our own test to make sure that we have no leaks before the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) witnessed test. We were able to get the boiler up to 90 degrees with a propane fired heater and a heated power washer. We slowly pressurized the boiler to around 125 PSI. The operating pressure of the boiler will be 200 PSI. This gave us a list of only a few items needing to be addressed before we perform our next test. 

All washout plugs were found to be leaking as we found the sealing surfaces improperly seating.  The sealing surface of the plugs are in the process of being trued up on the lathe now and the sealing surface of the sleeves will also be touched up. We have 2 staybolts that were found to be leaking and will be replaced very soon. We also had a small drip where the superheater header mounts to the front flue sheet, so the superheater units have been removed for access. We found about 5 studs altogether that were weeping and will be tightened.

Overall, this first test went very well, and we had no major issues. Plans are in motion to address the items we have and will be looking at doing our next hydro mid to end of September. Once we are confident we have all the items addressed, we will bring the boiler slowly up to 200 PSI and not over 120 degrees Fahrenheit. Then we will hold it and if no leaks occur then we will be ready to schedule our FRA witnessed hydro inspection.

This has taken a tremendous amount of capital and volunteer hours to get to this point. We have come very far and have done something at Mid-Continent we have never done before, a total rebuild of a steam locomotive to FRA standards. We have learned a lot in the process so far and still have a way to go. Please help support this project with funding and general support of our steam team. Without everyone pulling together we would not be as close as we are. A big thank you to our team and all our members and railfans that have supported us! We will not let you down.

Thank you for your help and support.

Andy S.

President

Mid-Continent Railroad Museum

Please visit the Donations Page to make a contribution toward the 1385 or other museum projects.

Prior to the day of the test, C&NW #1385 was rolled out of the shop and filled with water. Jeff L. photo.
Pete D. calibrates the pressure gauge to be used for the hydro test. Jeff L. photo.
C&NW #1385’s first hydro test begins. Lindsay L. photo.
Ed R. regulates water flow from the pressure washer as the needle on the boiler’s pressure gauge begins to climb. Lindsay L. photo.
Mike W. and Andy S. inspect for signs of leaks in the firebox. Jeff L. photo.
Mary S. monitors water flow. Andy S. photo.
The boiler pressure gauge shows just under 100 PSI as the team gradually ramps up the pressure. Ed R. photo.
Ed R. and Pete D. take notes on the leak locations and begin planning the work ahead. Andy S. photo.
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First Water 

Mid-Continent Railway Museum Posted on July 26, 2024 by RebeccaJuly 26, 2024

A few days ago, the #1385 felt her first sunshine with the new boiler, and now the boiler has received its first Wisconsin water.   

To clean up details from our last update, we have 2 crew photos because someone has to hold the camera.  The first shot shows Gary A., General Foreman of Steam Ed R., Gary B., Richard P. and Spec Machine owner, Steve R. 

Pete D. photo.

The second shot is Gary A., Ed R., Steve R., Richard and Roger F.  Roger provided and operated some of the machines used to lay the track. 

Pete D. photo.

After all the work that has been done on the boiler, we need to flush it out before we can prepare for a pressure test.  The first trickle coming from a firebox washout becomes a steady flow carrying debris from the stud installation with it.   

Pete D. photo.
Pete D. photo.
Pete D. photo.

A large hose was used in the steam dome, then Ed switched to a smaller hose to flush from the washouts at the front end of the boiler. 

Pete D. photo.

The engine seems to be saying, “Ahhhh,” while enjoying the afternoon sun and a nice, clean feeling. 

Pete D. photo.

The next morning the steam dome was mounted on the boiler with help from Blue Star Farms who not only provided the water but also mechanical help. 

Pete D. photo.
Roger F. photo.

With the steam dome in place, the engine was filled. Approximately 2800 gallons later, the vent hole in the steam dome lid looked like a bubbler. 

Pete D. photo.
Pete D. photo.

We have already identified a few minor weeps that will need attention and once the water is warmed to the proper testing range, we will pressurize the boiler to see if there are any further items for the “fix-it” list.  Then the boiler will be drained & dried, the fix-it list addressed, and the boiler refilled and pressurized again to make sure everything was truly fixed.  Once we know that we have a vessel that has no leaks, we can look to scheduling a test for the FRA. 

C&NW #1385: Summer Debut

Mid-Continent Railway Museum Posted on July 24, 2024 by Jeffrey LentzJuly 24, 2024

This great midsummer weather has all sorts of wonders to reveal.  Monday, 7/22 a small group of volunteers met at SPEC Machine and assembled a few track panels leading out the shop door.  From that process comes the old saw “If you build it they will come”. 

Well, we built it and guess who came out the door?  Our beloved 1385 is feeling sunshine for the first time in nearly 5 years.  We will have more details and more pictures in the very near future.

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